tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post1427779624553496980..comments2023-10-31T03:18:26.963-07:00Comments on Great Guys Weblog: The Loss of Collective ImaginationBrethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15063508651955739056noreply@blogger.comBlogger104125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-52197910055719139692014-06-02T11:34:29.115-07:002014-06-02T11:34:29.115-07:00Eagar tries to be coherent but misses the point th...Eagar tries to be coherent but misses the point that he was the one who claimed the poll tax was an economic issue.<br /><br />"Taxes are irrelevant to economic trends?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-11196746522482086172014-06-02T10:26:11.487-07:002014-06-02T10:26:11.487-07:00Harry, I'm beginning to think English isn'...Harry, I'm beginning to think English isn't your first language either. The word "like" in that list means that those words are lefty cant, not that you particularly used every one of them.<br /><br />You still haven't given us your definition of "rightwinger." I define it as fascist, so in this instance I agree with you that they think it's sin to be against the KKK or poll tax.<br /><br />I've already said the poll tax was a ploy to stay in power by the leftwing elites and wasn't only targeted at coloreds, but women and poor whites as well, not you care. It's always an economic negative when any portion of our fellow citizens are not free to partake of all the opportunities afforded the rest of us.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-25871999837039004012014-06-02T09:47:44.494-07:002014-06-02T09:47:44.494-07:00In the next few seconds when I type 'Halliburt...In the next few seconds when I type 'Halliburton' it will be the first time.<br /><br />Nice to have you confirm that being against the KKK or the poll tax is a sin among rightwingers.<br /><br />Guy tries to be clever but misses he point: the reduction of poll tax was not an economic measure. Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-79395135083025551642014-06-02T05:05:46.277-07:002014-06-02T05:05:46.277-07:00I wish I could believe that Harry's pathetic c...I wish I could believe that Harry's pathetic chanting of leftwing catch phrases like poll tax, Jim Crow, KKK, Wall Street, Halliburton, tea party ... was a signal that the left was in decline, but I fear it's only Harry old fashioned New Deal brand of socialism that is in decline and he hasn't even gotten the memo/fax/email/text/twitter/tweet, etc. of the new fascist list of favorites to demonize, like "conservative" (I wish) Fox News, the current favorite, but maybe they don't get it out there in paradise.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-19738526534428195602014-06-02T04:54:39.240-07:002014-06-02T04:54:39.240-07:00Reducing taxes are the key element to improving th...Reducing taxes are the key element to improving the economic situation of minorities? Stop the presses and tell the Democratic Party!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-40458606422350125122014-06-01T19:50:04.012-07:002014-06-01T19:50:04.012-07:00Taxes are irrelevant to economic trends? Stop the ...Taxes are irrelevant to economic trends? Stop the presses and tell the Tea Party!Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-85844762831093796062014-06-01T18:45:20.953-07:002014-06-01T18:45:20.953-07:00Mr. Eagar;
Since the topic was economic trends, I...Mr. Eagar;<br /><br />Since the topic was economic trends, I have no idea why you think poll taxes are relevant. You also apparently don't understand the word "trend", either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-54241266413944829162014-06-01T18:33:54.814-07:002014-06-01T18:33:54.814-07:00Because the electorate was overwhelmingly racist. ...Because the electorate was overwhelmingly racist. <br /><br />It's still racist, but overwhelmingly so only among rightwingers.<br /><br />Elite opinion, which you dislike so much, for obvious reasons, has come around to the view that the Constitution wasn't only a slick scheme to cheat the Continental veterans out of their pensions but that the rest of it meant something, too.<br /><br />Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-31322402112241577922014-06-01T15:54:38.372-07:002014-06-01T15:54:38.372-07:00... crickets... <i>crickets</i>erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-24075413232510961992014-06-01T15:53:13.174-07:002014-06-01T15:53:13.174-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-34230888799482261422014-06-01T15:52:54.115-07:002014-06-01T15:52:54.115-07:00Harry:
The poll tax was a shoddy attempt by pow...Harry: <br /><br />The poll tax was a shoddy attempt by powerful elites to keep control just like it's a shoddy attempt by the powerful elite aka fascists in power here now to keep control by claiming that requiring Voter ID Cards is just like the poll tax -- designed to keep blacks from voting. <br /><br />Not requiring ID's is just like the poll tax because it will keep the elites in power now just like the poll tax kept the elites in power in earlier times. Only the names and faces have changed.<br /><br /><i>Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.</i><br /><br />As I've said repeatedly any of the many lefty presidents at least since Wilson could have desegregated all federal lands and institutions and abolished the poll tax in federal elections. <br /><br />I'm still waiting for you to tell us why in your opinion they didn't do so.<br /><br />To quote Skipper: erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-42955111166171331472014-06-01T15:03:04.935-07:002014-06-01T15:03:04.935-07:00'As erp notes, those trends started before LBJ...'As erp notes, those trends started before LBJ and were, if anything, negatively impacted by the Great Society.'<br /><br />Wikipedia:<br /><br />'The 24th Amendment, ratified in 1964, reflecting a political compromise, abolished the use of the poll tax (or any other tax) as a pre-condition for voting in federal elections, but made no mention of poll taxes in state elections.<br /><br />'In the 1966 case of Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections, the Supreme Court overruled its decision in Breedlove v. Suttles, and extended the prohibition of poll taxes to state elections. It declared that the imposition of a poll tax in state elections violated the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution.'<br /><br />(Breedlove was handed down in 1964; you don't know any more American history than erp. So it took only a little over 100 years for the 14th Amendment to start having force.)Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-90719244447140416012014-05-30T08:58:19.686-07:002014-05-30T08:58:19.686-07:00What the Great Society has wrought with a little h...What the Great Society has wrought with a little help from its bratty little brother, political correctness:<br /><br /><i><a href="http://americanthinker.com/2014/05/widespread_memorial_day_black_violence_ignored_by_national_media.html" rel="nofollow">Widespread Memorial Day Black Violence Ignored by National Media</a></i>erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-68907765404596890802014-05-30T06:39:10.626-07:002014-05-30T06:39:10.626-07:00Bret;
More formatting help - I put a link in my l...Bret;<br /><br />More formatting help - I put a link in my last comment and it's indistinguishable from normal text.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-25864126567480844042014-05-30T06:38:04.623-07:002014-05-30T06:38:04.623-07:00Bret;
Your exchange there is an excellent embodim...Bret;<br /><br />Your exchange there is an excellent embodiment of the Modern American Leftist mindset which is about <i>taking</i> not <i>building</i>.<br /><br />Mr. Eagar;<br /><br />As erp notes, those trends started before LBJ and were, if anything, <a rel="nofollow">negatively impacted by the Great Society</a>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-59292807228600601072014-05-30T04:34:13.376-07:002014-05-30T04:34:13.376-07:00Harry, believe it or not, things were very much im...Harry, believe it or not, things were very much improving for blacks after the Second World War and would have continued to improve, including entrepreneurship, in an orderly manner, but that interfered with the left's plans, so they escalated what they knew would exacerbate racial tensions by forced busing and the second civil rights act.<br /><br />The evils of welfare and Obamaphones rain down on blacks and whites equally.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-44392392021603200492014-05-29T21:24:49.643-07:002014-05-29T21:24:49.643-07:00Shhh, don't let erp hear you. She is sure they...Shhh, don't let erp hear you. She is sure they are all illiterate layabouts who care so little for their political rights they will sell them for an Obamaphone.<br /><br />But, query for you, are you going to chalk this explosion of black entrepreneurialism to the Great Society, and if you aren't, please explain why it did not take off earlier?Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-66587876938059646022014-05-29T13:10:32.018-07:002014-05-29T13:10:32.018-07:00Harry Eagar wrote: "...blacks of the early 20...Harry Eagar wrote: "<i>...blacks of the early 20th century should have provided large endowments to Ivy League schools.</i>"<br /><br />They should be (and actually have been) bootstrapping themselves like the Taiwanese. There are nearly 2 million businesses owned by blacks now so soon (another generation or so) they will be doing exactly that.<br /><br />It would've been interesting if Malcolm X hadn't been assassinated. They might've got there a lot faster (though it might've also been more violent).Brethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15063508651955739056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-35549287457716681902014-05-29T11:30:29.813-07:002014-05-29T11:30:29.813-07:00So, and referring back to Bret's racism thread...So, and referring back to Bret's racism thread and the contention that blacks should just start businesses, blacks of the early 20th century should have provided large endowments to Ivy League schools.<br /><br />How careless of them to have neglected to do that.Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-16290011264767348542014-05-29T09:26:27.799-07:002014-05-29T09:26:27.799-07:00[Harry:] So, ummm, the affirmative action for dull...[Harry:] So, ummm, the affirmative action for dull white boys must have been based on a conservative belief that whites were unable to function independently? <br /><br />No, their parents gave lots of money to the schools, creating large endowments, without which poor kids wouldn't be able to attend.Hey Skipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798930502187234974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-24333854871174949412014-05-29T09:26:11.613-07:002014-05-29T09:26:11.613-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Hey Skipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798930502187234974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-70284167956513372212014-05-29T05:12:00.264-07:002014-05-29T05:12:00.264-07:00Harry, thanks so much for clarifying my life for m...Harry, thanks so much for clarifying my life for me. Not to brag, but my kid was far past exceptional, so much so that the Princeton Testing Services interviewed me for a study they were doing on how to identify exceptional minds in the very early years. He tested off the charts literally. In 6th grade his score was not calibrated, so I really doubt any black, white or any other color would have been a threat and there was a bidding war among the major institutions (even those for which he didn't apply like Harvard) for his admission. He chose Princeton because Einstein worked there.<br /><br />As for busing. There were black kids, as well rich kids and poor kids of every hue, in all the schools my kids attended in NYC, Connecticut and Vermont and if they were still young and lived here in Florida with us, they would have had a mixture of colors in their school yet again.<br /><br />Have you thought of having some counseling to help resolve your issues with blacks? Did your governess read you "Uncle Tom's Cabin" when you were a wee lad and leave you traumatized? Your Uncle Pat, like every other citizen, had no obligation to build his business in an area he didn't want. It's actually none of your business nor the business of any other person even if he could have made a bigger profit and provided jobs for blacks.<br /><br />It puzzles me that you didn't use your considerable talents to build businesses in black neighborhoods in order to provide jobs for the poor instead of living on a hillside in Maui enjoying the tropical breezes and delivering incoherent screeds to your betters.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-61465855607712384272014-05-28T21:09:55.466-07:002014-05-28T21:09:55.466-07:00Not strictly on merit, erp.
He suffered from hav...Not strictly on merit, erp. <br /><br />He suffered from having places awarded to dull white legacy admissions and benefitted from not having to compete will highly-qualified brown people.<br /><br />Over time, white applicants to Princeton have benefitted much more from affirmative action than they have suffered.<br /><br />If you never saw busing, that's because you didn't look. It was there to see.Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-82378577544591570702014-05-28T20:56:34.483-07:002014-05-28T20:56:34.483-07:00Clovis;
No, mostly you are. I do this in real lif...Clovis;<br /><br />No, mostly you are. I do this in real life too. Much of my professional work involves explaining highly complex systems to people in language they can understand, work for which I am in much demand and very well paid.<br /><br />I would say it's not my answers that are sneering, but your response to them (e.g., sneering that the Internet was built by just a few thousand people to dismiss my point on that). I've learned over the decades when to cut my losses on people who actively want to not understand.<br /><br />Mr. Eagar;<br /><br />Still waiting for any point at all from your cited article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-10143676737872753892014-05-28T19:15:52.638-07:002014-05-28T19:15:52.638-07:00Erp,
I am sorry for praising your family, it won...Erp, <br /><br />I am sorry for praising your family, it won't happen again.Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08921327103613284595noreply@blogger.com