tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post7756625887522105130..comments2023-10-31T03:18:26.963-07:00Comments on Great Guys Weblog: Is it really asking too much…?Brethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15063508651955739056noreply@blogger.comBlogger103125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-14362762183952991192016-01-19T02:03:57.900-08:002016-01-19T02:03:57.900-08:00To the contrary, he's probably angry as all ge...To the contrary, he's probably angry as all get out.<br /><br />Meta-angry.<br /><br />Meta-seething.<br /><br />Meta-outraged.<br /><br />It's just that he's gone straight through and came out the other side. So he's taken it to another dimension, entirely...<br /><br />...into meta-satori (might one say?).<br /><br />(If I may assume...though perhaps I assume too much...)<br /><br />File under: Heavy meta.Barry Meislinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04795125774426217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-175697960591717452016-01-14T17:38:19.585-08:002016-01-14T17:38:19.585-08:00Clovis, maybe he's mellowed and isn't angr...Clovis, maybe he's mellowed and isn't angry any more. :-)erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-43169338543831443972016-01-14T17:22:50.631-08:002016-01-14T17:22:50.631-08:00SH (BTW, why did you abandon the AOG alias?),
Tha...SH (BTW, why did you abandon the AOG alias?),<br /><br />Thanks for your metacomment.<br /><br />You may be metaright in general, but in this case I'd say the source of conflict here is another meta: Erp's metadiscourse. Her overemphasis on something trivial (foreigners having no constitutional granted rights) is what tipped me off to wrongly believe she was implying the non-trivial (they shouldn't have rights at all, ever).<br />Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08921327103613284595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-32006257614988324902016-01-14T16:26:44.693-08:002016-01-14T16:26:44.693-08:00Clovis;
"You are a personal paradox to me. Y...Clovis;<br /><br />"You are a personal paradox to me. You place so much emphasis on foreigners having no rights, yet you treated this one foreigner here like a king. Go figure."<br /><br />This is my soap box and I say the thing you seem to miss continually with regard to such questions is <i>consent</i>. Your puzzlement only makes sense if you think erp's view is that any not <i>required</i> must be <i>forbidden</i>. That is, if erp thinks it not required to treat foreigners well, she must think it forbidden and that she doesn't is the source of your "paradox".Susan's Husbandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02862667802025231163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-35020419215933318312016-01-12T06:53:11.028-08:002016-01-12T06:53:11.028-08:00Exactly, those women had it coming. The nerve of ...Exactly, those women had it coming. The nerve of them thinking they could wander around at will. <br /><br />What to they think they are, men!!erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-1870601767570188012016-01-12T06:39:23.796-08:002016-01-12T06:39:23.796-08:00Um, er, erp, we're not being terribly sensitiv...Um, er, erp, we're not being terribly sensitive here.<br /><br />In fact, I believe we're being downright insensitive. <br /><br />(Have we no shame?)<br /><br />Besides, one ought to take into consideration that these lies and cover-ups had to be made official policy by European governments because "they have no confidence in democracy or the ability of people to manage their own affairs."<br /><br />Perfectly understandable, really....Barry Meislinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04795125774426217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-22135291064709190402016-01-12T06:10:11.784-08:002016-01-12T06:10:11.784-08:00My favorite part is they, the police, were shocked...My favorite part is they, the police, were shocked by the violence at first, but then it became so commonplace, they were no longer bothered by it -- it's just a variation on the old commie proverb about breaking eggs to make omelets -- you know, the greater good and all that.<br /><br />IMO this proves without a doubt that even those Nordic countries held up as triumphs of socialism are as corrupt as all the other failed examples of the "noble experiment."erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-25846963966649477972016-01-12T02:12:25.448-08:002016-01-12T02:12:25.448-08:00Shhhhhhhhhhh.
(Wouldn't want to empower any o...Shhhhhhhhhhh.<br /><br />(Wouldn't want to empower any of those conservatives....)<br /><br />http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/223706/Barry Meislinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04795125774426217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-22739831965969307252016-01-10T14:11:31.004-08:002016-01-10T14:11:31.004-08:00...but still the beautiful people are sticking to ...<i>...but still the beautiful people are sticking to yesterday's playbook</i><br /><br />Well you realize that is part of the groupthink of their tribal identity.<br /><br /><i>Note to file: Gotta read more newspapers</i><br /><br />After starting by giving the benefit of the doubt about his political views, we eventually learned that our newspaper enthusiast (n.e.) was unable to grasp the benefits of limited government as easily learned from a casual study of history or introductory political science.<br /><br /><i>...get rid of Christianity first and then we'll worry about...</i><br /><br />More recently it had been my impression that life experiences with race and also religion had left the n.e. so traumatized as to be unable to think clearly on such matters. But at this point, perhaps rather than call the n.e. Harry we should start calling him <a href="http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=2122" rel="nofollow">Franz</a>:<br /><br /><i>I hope it is clear by now that the particular flavor of thoughtcrime alleged is irrelevant to understanding the operation of kafkatraps and how to avoid being abused and manipulated by kafkatrappers. In times past the kafkatrapper was usually a religious zealot; today, he or she is just as likely to be advancing an ideology of racial, gender, sexual-minority, or economic grievance. Whatever your opinion of any of these causes in their ‘pure’ forms may be, there are reasons that the employment of kafkatrapping is a sure sign of corruption.<br /><br />The practice of kafkatrapping corrupts causes in many ways, some obvious and some more subtle. The most obvious way is that abusive and manipulative ways of controlling people tend to hollow out the causes for which they are employed, smothering whatever worthy goals they may have begun with and reducing them to vehicles for the attainment of power and privilege over others.<br /><br />A subtler form of corruption is that those who use kafkatraps in order to manipulate others are prone to fall into them themselves. Becoming unable to see out of the traps, their ability to communicate with and engage anyone who has not fallen in becomes progressively more damaged. At the extreme, such causes frequently become epistemically closed, with a jargon and discourse so tightly wrapped around the logical fallacies in the kafkatraps that their doctrine is largely unintelligible to outsiders. </i><br /><br />(h/t to Ed Driscoll via <a href="http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/223577/" rel="nofollow">Instapundit</a> with a major nod to Eric Raymond)<br />As Instapundit likes to say - read the whole thing.Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14980738175201874292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-16733914919878028912016-01-10T13:59:39.210-08:002016-01-10T13:59:39.210-08:00Barry, I too have confidence in Swedish engineerin...Barry, I too have confidence in Swedish engineering, it's their, or anybody's really, ability to distinguish between the 51 sexes identified recently by our genius overlords and not only sex, it's now impossible to distinguish a <a href="http://www.mediaite.com/online/meet-the-52-year-old-father-who-identifies-a-6-year-old-girl/" rel="nofollow">52 year old man from a six year old girl</a>.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-60840696835416831162016-01-10T13:13:15.255-08:002016-01-10T13:13:15.255-08:00I wouldn't worry. I have full confidence in th...I wouldn't worry. I have full confidence in the Swedes. <br /><br />(Don't forget: these are the people who gave the world turnips.)<br /><br />If they can divide a pool into two, they can certainly divide one into three, four, five or even six. (Don't ask. I don't even want to think about it....)<br /><br />All those Saab engineers who were laid off when the automotives division went belly up can be put back to work. First pools. Then saunas. Then kiddie pools. Skating rinks. Sidewalks. Restaurants. It's endless. I, for one, am looking forward to that renowned Swedish ingenuity and their nordic problem-solving abilities.Barry Meislinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04795125774426217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-45349445100091245872016-01-10T08:30:41.994-08:002016-01-10T08:30:41.994-08:00Barry, re: sexes segregated at Swedish pool. The S...Barry, re: sexes segregated at Swedish pool. The Swedes sure opened a can of worms listening to their visitors.<br /><br />How can the people in charge tell who's what? If someone looks like a man, but identifies as a woman ... and vice versa, what will be the criterion for determining who is which and which is what?<br /><br />Can't wait for the rest of this story.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-13265499578539712542016-01-10T05:52:43.480-08:002016-01-10T05:52:43.480-08:00If only there were a Hippocratic Oath for politici...If only there were a Hippocratic Oath for politicians....<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3392158/Russian-doctor-punched-patient-floor-killing-instantly.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonlineBarry Meislinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04795125774426217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-45304332686797609462016-01-10T04:33:22.615-08:002016-01-10T04:33:22.615-08:00For several days now, I've been watching the s...For several days now, I've been watching the stories of the mass sexual assaults in Cologne and elsewhere in Europe. I was fascinated by how the political elites, press and even the police seemed completely tongue-tied and had nothing to say, except rote drivel about how we can't blame all refugees, real Muslims are horrified, blah, blah. The denial seemed almost surreal. It seemed apparent to me that the forces of nativism among a simmering public were going to grow, which would benefit some pretty nasty movements and be politically chaotic. Everybody knows this, as it's happening in plain view, but still the beautiful people are sticking to yesterday's playbook. I thought it was tragic and scary.<br /><br />Or so I thought. Then, Harry (completely out of the blue and without so much as a thread on the subject) made me put it all in perspective. Forty to sixty years ago a youth choir director in Germany abused a lot of members, thus proving what happened on New Year's had its origins in Christianity and we have no right whatsoever to complain. One might say let he who is without sin...etc., but Harry gets uncomfortable when scripture backs him. Anyway, get rid of Christianity first and then we'll worry about refugees. Not only that, there have been assaults at past Oktoberfests by "ethnic Germans". Not just Germans, but ethnic Germans---the scary kind. Only right wing racists could fail to see this demonstrates Cologne was just a typical festive day in Germany and that, between the boozing and the groping, the refugees are actually assimilating fast. <br /><br />As Harry himself might say, nothing to see here, let's move on. Thanks, Harry. <br /><br />Note to file: Gotta read more newspapersPeterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15836910211382887430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-27241341815016327722016-01-10T04:29:41.827-08:002016-01-10T04:29:41.827-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15836910211382887430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-75273326979788975322016-01-10T02:50:05.151-08:002016-01-10T02:50:05.151-08:00Looks like more unconscionable fascist reporting:
...Looks like more unconscionable fascist reporting:<br /><br />http://neoneocon.com/2016/01/08/new-years-eve-sexual-assaults-in-finland-too/<br /><br />(Tolerance and understanding seem to be lacking in Finland, too...)Barry Meislinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04795125774426217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-81438202050646162942016-01-10T00:26:16.434-08:002016-01-10T00:26:16.434-08:00Despair not (alle ye who enter heere):
Innovative...Despair not (alle ye who enter heere):<br /><br />Innovative, hi-tech solutions are on the way solve every problem and unruffle ever feather (in the spirit of fellowship---and necessity):<br /><br />http://www.thelocal.se/20160108/swimming-hall-split-pools-between-men-and-women<br /><br />Truly an idea whose time has come....Barry Meislinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04795125774426217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-14580737600953382292016-01-09T20:16:41.866-08:002016-01-09T20:16:41.866-08:00Skipper, apparently there have been assorted probl...Skipper, apparently there have been assorted problems during Oktoberfestivities over the years that weren't important enough to make BIG NEWS, but now that we need some moral relevance, it's prequel* time.<br /><br />*Back filling reportage to show that past events were even worse than whatever the current protected population is perpetrating. <br /><br />It's easy to understand once you realize that effect no longer follows cause, but precedes it.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-83461177045342839892016-01-09T18:48:07.604-08:002016-01-09T18:48:07.604-08:00[harry:] Read a newspaper.
I hear a report (All...<i>[harry:] Read a newspaper. <br /><br /> I hear a report (All Things Considered today) ...</i><br /><br />NPR is a newspaper?<br /><br /><i>... that before New Year's there was a campaign (#outcry) in Germany against such attacks, which are especially prevalent by ethnic Germans at Oktoberfest. </i><br /><br />Not as shows up on searches, or that I have heard of. Lots of people and lots of alcohol; sure there are going to be a few problems. But especially prevalent sex attacks by ethnic Germans? <br /><br />Sounds like progs shouting SQUIRREL! to me.<br />Hey Skipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798930502187234974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-65568213721515118522016-01-09T14:54:49.374-08:002016-01-09T14:54:49.374-08:00You're on the spot. I hear a report (All Thing...You're on the spot. I hear a report (All Things Considered today) that before New Year's there was a campaign (#outcry) in Germany against such attacks, which are especially prevalent by ethnic Germans at Oktoberfest. <br /><br />I wouldn't know about that. Perhaps you noticed but thought nothing of it?Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-91443490537285301392016-01-09T14:39:03.610-08:002016-01-09T14:39:03.610-08:00Skipper, I'll try my hand at decoding. I thin...Skipper, I'll try my hand at decoding. I think Harry's point is that Christians are so evil and have committed so many atrocities, that Moslems can never catch up with them, so they should be given a pass no matter what they do.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-84778622745002703012016-01-09T12:36:33.250-08:002016-01-09T12:36:33.250-08:00[harry:] Wrong search, Skipper. Not what I wrote.
...<i>[harry:] Wrong search, Skipper. Not what I wrote.<br /><br />Read a newspaper.</i><br /><br />To refresh your memory, here is what you wrote:<br /><br /><i>Here's a fun fact (secret except to people who read a daily newspaper): <a href="https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=The+place+in+the+world+where+a+woman+is+most+at+risk+of+gang-rape" rel="nofollow">The place in the world where a woman is most at risk of gang-rape</a> has no Muslims, no Jews, no Buddhists, no Sikhs, no Hindus, no Parsees and even no atheists. It is all Christian. </i><br /><br />Allow me to give you some advice. Writing something like that, which you do frequently, is truly annoying, because it requires me to search out what the heck it is you are talking about: click on the link, in case my meaning isn't crystal clear. Then, following it up with a snotty reply turns the annoyance level to 11. Higher, even, than when you trot out a bollocks pronunciamento and then, when called on it, fail to have the integrity to acknowledge your error (unless, of course, it was intentional). <br /><br />Which leads to the pro-tip: Don't make us guess, tell us where this place is in the world. Because until you do, I'm assuming it exists only in your imagination, that has a decidedly defamatory itch.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/09/world/europe/over-200-members-of-german-choir-were-abused-investigator-says.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news" rel="nofollow">Who's the threat to chastity in Germany?</a><br /><br />So let me get this straight, because abuse happened in a church choir, that rampaging gangs in four cities in Germany is OK with you? That those gangs <i>aren't</i> a threat?<br /><br />Otherwise, I'm really struggling to figure out what your point is.Hey Skipperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10798930502187234974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-84631642172816235852016-01-09T11:11:33.333-08:002016-01-09T11:11:33.333-08:00Who's the threat to chastity in Germany?
http...Who's the threat to chastity in Germany?<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/09/world/europe/over-200-members-of-german-choir-were-abused-investigator-says.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-newsHarry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-40690105085027891602016-01-09T11:06:14.268-08:002016-01-09T11:06:14.268-08:00Wrong search, Skipper. Not what I wrote.
Read a n...Wrong search, Skipper. Not what I wrote.<br /><br />Read a newspaper. Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-92113686533202269632016-01-08T16:02:10.959-08:002016-01-08T16:02:10.959-08:00You were smart enough to travel with Adri and Andr...You were smart enough to travel with Adri and Andreas. Otherwise we would have had you arrested and whipped as a dangerous alien with nefarious motives and still might send out our minions to do you bodily harm if you don't send timely pictures of the little guy. Full disclosure: Andreas is the second cutest kid on the planet after our granddaughter Harlowe and a possible match may be in the making ... keep tuned.<br /><br />To be serious: you don't have rights that We, the People didn't allow you. That's my point.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.com