tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post875722168397788457..comments2023-10-31T03:18:26.963-07:00Comments on Great Guys Weblog: Near perfect communicationBrethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15063508651955739056noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-21928200182745484832016-01-07T19:14:41.745-08:002016-01-07T19:14:41.745-08:00More than you'd ever want to know about natura...<a href="www.nationalreview.com/corner/429356/ted-cruz-natural-born-citizen" rel="nofollow">More than you'd ever want to know about natural born citizens.</a>erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-54154518388982752692016-01-07T17:10:56.516-08:002016-01-07T17:10:56.516-08:00Cruz meets the requirements for a "natural bo...Cruz meets the requirements for a "natural born citizen."<br /><br />I believe Obama was born in Hawaii, it's the rest of his bio that is mostly bogus as I explained above.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-63651458426451337482016-01-07T16:27:52.369-08:002016-01-07T16:27:52.369-08:00Erp,
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I didn't mean that it would be an im...Erp,<br /><br />---<br />I didn't mean that it would be an impediment to the presidency [...]<br />---<br /><br />So I indeed misunderstand the whole reason his birth certificate and citizenship(s) is a topic at all. <br /><br />AFAIK, it was all about the question if he attended the requirement that a President must be a natural born citizen. Am I wrong?<br /><br />While we are at the topic, by the way, do you believe Ted Cruz attends that requirement? Because I truly do not understand how his case would be different, or even worse, since no one disputes he was born out of the country. So how can you question Obama on this point and still be supportive of Cruz, dear Erp?<br />Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08921327103613284595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-39286063512262849162016-01-06T10:56:53.602-08:002016-01-06T10:56:53.602-08:00There's plenty of controversy surrounding that...There's plenty of <a href="http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-birth-announcement-microfilm-reels-are-very-different/" rel="nofollow">controversy</a> surrounding that birth announcement and here's another piece of hot-off-the-press news, Fox News isn't conservative. It's owned by Rupert Murdoch who publicly supported Hillary. <br /><br />Advice Harry, don't try to kid with a kidder.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-31525151657443886812016-01-06T10:25:55.199-08:002016-01-06T10:25:55.199-08:00You know what was really clever, Clovis? Putting t...You know what was really clever, Clovis? Putting that birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper. Those Illuminati think of everything!<br /><br />Also, this is the first place I have seen The Blaze described as leftwing. <br /><br />Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-46429103928402740762016-01-06T10:01:13.356-08:002016-01-06T10:01:13.356-08:00Clovis, you misunderstand. I didn't mean that...Clovis, you misunderstand. I didn't mean that it would be an impediment to the presidency, I meant it would show that eight years after returning to Hawaii, he chose to declare himself a foreign national on a college admissions application rather than a native born son, if indeed there isn't something else going on here.<br /><br />Chewbacca defense?erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-20311731627616491482016-01-06T09:34:11.962-08:002016-01-06T09:34:11.962-08:00Erp,
Supreme Court case Perkins v. Elg is from 19...Erp,<br /><br />Supreme Court case Perkins v. Elg is from 1939.<br /><br />---<br />I don't think it much matters because he definitely matriculated at Occidental College as a foreign student. <br />---<br />I don't know why that matters at all. It is above established that a second Indonesian citizenship was not an impediment for his US Citizenship under US laws. Assuming he had such a second citizenship, and that he used it to enlist at that College, it still bears no importance to the matter of being eligible for the presidency.<br /><br />Sorry Erp, but you look to be trying a Chewbacca defense here.<br />Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08921327103613284595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-27810591310314555572016-01-06T09:23:10.854-08:002016-01-06T09:23:10.854-08:00Clovis, basically what I said, except how I rememb...Clovis, basically what I said, except how I remembered it, the person in question would have to petition to restore his U.S. citizenship at age 18, not the other way around. Perhaps case you cite happened after Obama reached 18? <br /><br />I don't think it much matters because he definitely matriculated at Occidental College as a foreign student. IMO one of the major reasons his first act as president was to have all his records sealed -- the other being Ann Dunham could not have been married to Obama Sr). erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-53091259097084342172016-01-06T08:41:06.047-08:002016-01-06T08:41:06.047-08:00Erp,
Per your own link:
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However, it’s impor...Erp,<br /><br />Per your own link:<br /><br />----<br />However, it’s important to note that even if Obama was adopted and became an Indonesian citizen, he would not have lost his American citizenship under existing constitutional law (see the Supreme Court case Perkins v. Elg). Indonesia then and now does not allow dual citizenship, but under American law he would not have lost his American citizenship until he reached the age of majority and chose himself to give it up.<br />------<br /><br />Do you disagree? It looks like a pretty straightfoward legal question. Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08921327103613284595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-55850423036105974892016-01-06T06:10:10.229-08:002016-01-06T06:10:10.229-08:00I did at one time, but as I said almost all the ma...I did at one time, but as I said almost all the material in a very large file that I compiled on Obama after the Kerry nomination convention is no longer available. <a href="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/11/05/was-obama-once-an-indonesian-citizen-heres-what-we-found-when-we-went-there-looking/" rel="nofollow">Here's</a> the leftwing website the Blaze's equivocational take on the subject. <br /><br />I tried to get some info and ran across <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_and_career_of_Barack_Obama" rel="nofollow">this</a> highly amusing version of his life which bears only a passing resemblance to what I remembered from my early research, but which alas will be the definitive version for the ages.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-24980646494311871472016-01-06T04:17:25.544-08:002016-01-06T04:17:25.544-08:00Erp,
So by US Law, after such foreign adoption (e...Erp,<br /><br />So by US Law, after such foreign adoption (even though with the American mother being together), you "automatically" lose your US Citizenship (that is, if you male no petition later)?<br /><br />Would you have a link for such law?Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08921327103613284595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-35382796006843279702016-01-05T18:32:44.825-08:002016-01-05T18:32:44.825-08:00... when a child is adopted his birth certificate ...... when a child is adopted his birth certificate is also sealed.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-37578558859617011352016-01-05T18:31:02.279-08:002016-01-05T18:31:02.279-08:00No, but in Obama's case, he was legally adopte...No, but in Obama's case, he was legally adopted by Soetero and became an Indonesian citizen. When this happens, the individual is allowed to petition the court to restore his U.S. citizen when he reaches the age of 18. There is no record of Obama having done so and in fact, he matriculated at Occidental College as a foreign student, then he mysteriously transferred to Columbia where he was a "ghost" and came out no longer a foreign student was swept away to Harvard where he was named to the formerly prestigious position of editor of the law review without having written so much as a grocery list nor did he make the cut to enter Alan Dershowitz's prestigious constitutional law class.<br /><br />As an amusing aside, our president actually said that he knows what he did today by fiat was okay because he taught constitutional law. Media reported that with straight faces and without comment.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-44794330936695305062016-01-05T16:56:27.300-08:002016-01-05T16:56:27.300-08:00Erp,
If an American born baby, from an American w...Erp,<br /><br />If an American born baby, from an American woman, moves to another country where her mother marries a non-American, does it mean the kid loses its American citizenship? What your laws say?Clovishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08921327103613284595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-8172603027312875602016-01-05T16:44:39.157-08:002016-01-05T16:44:39.157-08:00Harry, reread my comment if you want to know what ...Harry, reread my comment if you want to know what I said.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-91936642225239418592016-01-05T15:27:44.962-08:002016-01-05T15:27:44.962-08:00Search Youtube for 'Chinese' Howard. Shee...Search Youtube for 'Chinese' Howard. Sheesh. <br /><br />erp, it's small wonder you are so confused, you don't read well. I did not say my family could not get health care. I said they worked to get it for poor people who were not getting it from doctors or anybody else. We know you believe that New Yorkers were getting free care from the finest doctors in the city, but, besides being impossible (too many poor people, not enough rich doctors), it didn't happen.Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-63503351754460890242016-01-05T12:28:28.207-08:002016-01-05T12:28:28.207-08:00I listened to supposedly racists comment by Limbau...I listened to supposedly racists comment by Limbaugh on youtube, nearly 10 minutes worth. Read several lists of quotes... waiting, waiting, waiting. Nope, all without context. Many examples of which I know the context. I would say nice try but it is really a very poor try. If you don't have video with context or full transcripts with surrounding material you can't trust... However, it tells me much more about you're emotional need to discredit someone who challenges your worldview.Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14980738175201874292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-55903270684137279212016-01-05T09:12:02.440-08:002016-01-05T09:12:02.440-08:00So Harry, tell us the real skinny about Obama'...So Harry, tell us the real skinny about Obama's birth certificate, especially the part where Soetero adopts him at age 4 and his birth certificate is sealed, altered, what?<br /> <br />And then there's the fact that there is no record he ever reversed his citizenship from Indonesian when he was 18 and then there's the fact that like Dan Rather's famous letter composed on a word processor decades before its invention, the document offered as his birth certificate was an obvious forgery.<br /><br />Why? Because his father, traveling on a British passport, was already married and couldn't have married his mother in Hawaii, then a U.S. protectorate, or anywhere else. That is if, indeed, his purported parents are his real progenitors. <br />He's obviously related to <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/05/barack-obama-and-grandfather_n_2808285.html" rel="nofollow">Stanley Dunham</a> as he looks very much like him, but exactly who his mother was is open to speculation as no one has ever come forward to say they saw Stanely Ann Dunham pregnant and then at the age of barely 18 she conveniently took the infant at a couple of months old and all on her went to school in Washington state???? Remember this was in 1962 when young girls on their own with babies and no visible means weren't as numerous as they are now. Any record of her being graduated from high school??? Next thing you know, she's a prominent anthropologist with a doctorate.<br /> <br />So many many anomalies that the myth of Obama's past is even more fabulist than Vince Foster's suicide.<br /> <br />Harry, (a) why not turn your mighty intellect on ferreting out the truth about the lies all around you instead of beating the dead horse of Limbaugh’s imaginary racism; (b) Sorry that your relatives didn’t have the ability to get health care for their children where they came from, but the people where I came from figured it out and had it was working very well before your cohort got control.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-23831708834135353262016-01-05T08:10:05.513-08:002016-01-05T08:10:05.513-08:00'More accurate' means 'totally imagina...'More accurate' means 'totally imaginary.' Got it.<br /><br />As for Limbaugh's being so well informed, recall that the Internet never forgets. Search for Limbaugh + birth certificate. If you want his racist rant, it's available on Youtube.<br /><br /><br /><br />Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-42871352015099790272016-01-04T15:07:15.388-08:002016-01-04T15:07:15.388-08:00The "death panels" were a more accurate ...The "death panels" were a more accurate description of the ACHA than "if you like your insurance you can keep it" or that the ACHA would "cut the cost of a typical family's premium by up to $2,500 a year". Inexplicably Mr. Eagar seems less than eager to mention those.Susan's Husbandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02862667802025231163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-51238661031211513602016-01-04T13:29:53.282-08:002016-01-04T13:29:53.282-08:00Perhaps the reason conservatives do very little ly...Perhaps the reason conservatives do very little lying is we don't have the entire media and academe to confirm our lies. <br /><br />It's difficult for me to watch any movies or TV or read modern books even if they're well written like Joyce Carol Oates and a couple of others is there is always a snide aside, most of the time completely gratuitous about somebody or something not on the plantation.<br /><br />Then I must drop the book in disgust and rail at the gods. :-) Oops, since I read ebooks almost entirely, I learned that can be very expensive.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-18810652067343301212016-01-04T12:30:26.669-08:002016-01-04T12:30:26.669-08:00Correction, you heard a clip without context.
Din...<i>Correction, you heard a clip without context.</i><br /><br />Ding! Ding! Ding!<br /><br />Just as one example, let me remind everyone here of a <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=deceptive+editing+of+zimmerman&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8" rel="nofollow">deceptively edited</a> 911 call. Even got a producer fired...<br /><br />I've heard plenty of other egregious examples regarding racism, Rush, all kinds of other people and matters in public forums being misrepresented.<br /><br />No side has a monopoly on deception, but one seems to be much more of a chronic offender. Beyond the most blatant attempts at deception, there is the more common reporting made consistent with what all the "right thinking" people believe. The conformity and groupthink inside that bubble is impressive. If someone does have doubts about the orthodoxy, dare they voice their concerns and risk paying the price?<br /><br />This is why I don't like history or any other form of study/inquiry that is context-less. <br /><br />If you want to see a fun example of what more active editing can do (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CYJ73pVpVc" rel="nofollow">video</a>).Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14980738175201874292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-7033218717726723602016-01-03T19:47:44.987-08:002016-01-03T19:47:44.987-08:00... BTW your typo was a Freudian slip. Herd menta...... BTW your typo was a Freudian slip. Herd mentality indeed!erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-56350045491148004872016-01-03T19:45:59.089-08:002016-01-03T19:45:59.089-08:00Correction, you heard a clip without context. I d...Correction, you heard a clip without context. I doubt you ever heard a single program. I haven't heard him in years and that only in the car, but he's very witty and without guile. That's why they've never laid a glove on him even though hoards of vile little creatures have been crawling around trying to catch him out.<br /><br />Just compare his stuff with the entire leftwing media trashing Bush, telling bold face lies and Sarah Palin ditto. Some little twit on SNL makes a snide remark about her seeing Russia from her back porch and suddenly it's part of her bio. <br /><br />You want disgusting, your side has it in spades.erphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09826044412670324694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5806884.post-68894926785498318902016-01-03T19:22:16.008-08:002016-01-03T19:22:16.008-08:00True, the reality-based news sources did not repor...True, the reality-based news sources did not report that death panels were to be imposed. To that extent you are correct.<br /><br />But that was because the idea was imaginary.<br /><br />There are indeed many aggregator sites; many false, many tendentious. I like RightWingWatch myself because they offer the audio or video clips. <br /><br />Like when Limbaugh was accused of racism. Skipper went on and on about how that wasn't true, but then we herd the clip.<br /><br />Harry Eagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04196202758858876402noreply@blogger.com